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So you think you have some stupid policies in your department,, Check this one from South Carolina out.
post September 21st 2009 4:14 PM
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This town and basicly told the Police Dept that they are to observe and report and can not give any chase whatsoever to criminals. I guess she hopes that all the BG will line up and turn themselves in. I bet gun sales are going through the roof.

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The mayor of an Upstate city has issued an order that may handcuff her police officers and put citizens at risk, according to some.

News Channel 7 received a fax from an anonymous person identifying themself as “a concerned Wellford citizen”. Included was a memo written by Wellford Mayor Sallie Peake, addressed to all city police officers. Dated September 2, 2009, it reads:

“As of this date, there are to be no more foot chases when a suspect runs. I do not want anyone chasing after any suspects whatsoever.“

We have not been able to reach Peake for comment. The city clerk tells us the Mayor is out of town on vacation and is unreachable.

Wellford Police Chief Chris Guy confirmed the memo was legitimate. He says he has told his officers to abide by the order until he can sit down with Peake and talk about it.

“This came about because an officer twisted his ankle while chasing a suspect a couple of weeks ago,“ said Chief Guy.

He said he could not comment further until he has talked with Peake about how the policy will affect his officers’ abilities to perform their duties.

For an outside opinion, we went to Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright.

“I’ve never seen a memo like that before, telling your police officers not to do their job,“ said Wright. “That’s strange.“

Wright says Peake has essentiall handcuffed her officers.

“If a bank robber or a drunk driver or a shoplifter or somebody with a warrant runs on foot, it’s our obligation to do what we can do to bring them to justice,“ says Wright.

He says the memo may actually be illegal because it directly conflicts with a police officer’s constitutional oath to uphold the law. And he says while it may protect officers from injury, it may also put citizens at risk.

“If you’ve got somebody that’s running from the police, whose to say they won’t break into your home to get away from law enforcement?“ said Wright.

He said he is going to ask State Law Enforcement Division if the memo is legal. In the meantime, he says he will add patrols to the Wellford area in case officers need help catching suspects who decide to run.

We will continue following this story and get answers from Mayor Sallie Peake.


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(Wellford, SC)—The Mayor of Wellford is defending her policy which bans police officers in that city from chasing suspects. Sallie Peake says the policy also includes vehicle chases along with pursuits on foot.

A memo issued on September 2nd from Peake to all Wellford officers reads:

“As of this date, there are to be no more foot chases when a suspect runs. I do not want anyone chasing after any suspects whatsoever.“

WSPA first reported the mandate on Wednesday after an anonymous citizen faxed a copy of the memo to our newsroom. Peake was out of town and unavailable for comment. On Friday, reporter Chris Cato caught up with her in her office and questioned her about the origin of the policy. Peake says she issued the mandate because several officers have been injured during chases, driving up insurance costs for the town.

“The officers are costing us more money on insurance than most citizens here in the city of Wellford are even earning,“ says Peake.

She says the city is paying out $20,000 annually in workers’ compensation claims, much of it due to the police force. In July, two officers wrecked their cruisers while chasing suspects and had to go to the hospital for minor treatment. The police chief says three officers have been injured during foot chases in the last two years.

Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright says the policy prevents police from upholding the law—a direct violation of their constitutional oath.

“If a bank robber or a drunk driver or a shoplifter or somebody with a warrant runs on foot, it’s our obligation to do what we can do to bring them to justice,“ says Wright.

But when we asked Peake about her order impeding an officer from stopping a crime in progress, she became defensive and irate. The conversation went as follows:

Reporter: “Are you telling your officers if they witness a crime - they witness someone commit a crime on someone else and they’re ten yards away - they can’t go stop that person?“
Peake: “Is that in there?“ (referring to policy)
Reporter: “It says no chases whatsoever.“
Peake: “Well, that’s what I said, no chases, didn’t I? I didn’t say nothing about a crime. If you see a crime, this that and the other -“
Reporter: “Well, that’s what a chase is - “
Peake: “Well, I told them no chase on foot, and (the police chief) know exactly what I mean, so you’re trying to twist what I -“
Reporter: “No, I’m not. You said no chases. No chases means no chases.“
Peake: (claps hands) “You got you a story, thank God! You are so sweet! You got you a story on a woman in Wellford! Hallelujah! I’m so proud of you, Mr. Cato!“

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Wellford Police Chief Chris Guy has told his officers to abide by the policy. He says they can still protect the public.

“Just because a suspect may run does not mean we can’t identify them, sign warrants, and catch them later,“ says Guy.

But Sheriff Wright says when a suspect gets away, there is always the chance he could hurt someone before officers catch up with him.

Peake says that won’t happen in Wellford.

Here’s hoping the arm of the law really is long.


Watch the full interview he goes on the deffisve right away trying to justify her decision to empower the criminals.


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post September 21st 2009 4:30 PM
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Watch the video it is hilarious http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/articl...e_policy/27034/

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Yep. They will get exactly the police department they want. Anyone who wanted to be pro-active, they'll leave. That will leave the slugs and those close to retirement. They'll never leave the office except to take calls, and even then, they'll show up with a report form and pen in hand. It's going to be kind of difficult around that city now, all a criminal has to do is run across the street, the cop starts to walk across, he runs another 10-20 feet. Turn them into a joke.


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They got the mayor they wanted & now they have to deal with it....


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I predict this won't last long. Soon all the well to do folk will say, "Come darling, let's seek our entertainment elsewhere."

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That is one of the craziest thing that I have heard of.


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QUOTE (bruce @ September 21st 2009 11:30 AM) *


WOW, they picked a winner. What is her next policy going to be? Firefighters can't go into burning buildings?


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QUOTE (MontanaLon @ September 21st 2009 9:09 PM) *
WOW, they picked a winner. What is her next policy going to be? Firefighters can't go into burning buildings?


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QUOTE (MontanaLon @ September 21st 2009 8:09 PM) *
WOW, they picked a winner. What is her next policy going to be? Firefighters can't go into burning buildings?


hey, fires are dangerous. don't you understand the insurance ramifications if a firefighter were to be injured? wacko.gif


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Who voted for that retard? She can barely speak English and she's the mayor? WTF is wrong with you people over there?

Sorry about reviving a dead thread, but damn, this b**** is ignorant and seems pretty uneducated.


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QUOTE (SepsiS @ October 12th 2009 10:45 PM) *
Who voted for that retard? She can barely speak English and she's the mayor? WTF is wrong with you people over there?

Sorry about reviving a dead thread, but damn, this b**** is ignorant and seems pretty uneducated.

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In all my years on the net, this has to be the funniest thread ever. hysterical3.gif

Just when I think some libtard politician can't come up with anything so dumb that it can surprise me, they do it every time.

Its like it never crossed this woman's mind that the first thing criminals do when they see a cop is run. Its as if she never watched a TV show except maybe "Cops" which only shows clips of police cruiser cams.

I don't think this will destroy this department. Her career maybe.



BTW, On this subject to tell you how much things have changed over the years. In the town I grew up, it was in the mountains. Every street criminal and for that matter unruly kid knew you went into the woods, the cops stopped chasing you. Naturally if they were bolting, that's where they bolted for. Now the cops knew this too so that gave them a direction the suspect would be running which narrowed down any search. In those days, every kid knew the forest like the back of their hands and it would take an Army to find them. The tactic was let them go in then cruise around the hill waiting on them to come out. After all, not much damage they could do in there. Some they would catch and some they wouldn't but I guess in retrospect not much different than a foot chase in the city as far as odds go.

Times have changed so much in that town, the paths we all ran as kids are grown over. The no woods policy has long been dropped mainly because so many they chase the last place they would go is the woods. Ironically the department goes more in the woods now than ever before usually a rescue mission where either some citizen or yes even sometimes the bad guy calls 911 on their cell, "I'm lost and come get me." Now you have imagine this isn't some major national forest but just hills surrounded by city streets. It boggles my mind how anyone could get lost. You only have to go down to find a street.

I guess the criminals in that city have the same IQ as that mayor in this story. laugh.gif

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Doesn't understand her own policy. How did she get elected? The general population of Wellford was
not paying attention, or there wasn't anyone else running.


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Well if I was a crimminal I'd be moving there. If I was a honest citizen I'd be buying a gun. If I was a cop I'd just be training a pitbull to bite running people in the right rear pocket if they are running. My moms Dobes will go for the crotch on command.


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They have reconsidered the policy, and have removed the chase prohibition. They are going back to their old policies. I heard somewhere that people from all over the country flooded that city with emails, letters, and phone calls. They probably lost more money in down time just answering the phone than they spend in worker's comp insurance.
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QUOTE (bonehead098 @ October 13th 2009 6:03 PM) *
Doesn't understand her own policy. How did she get elected? The general population of Wellford was
not paying attention, or there wasn't anyone else running.

Or she could have cousins, nephews, children that are criminals and she didn't want them getting caught. Maybe the cop that got hurt during the foot pursuit was chasing one of her family members and thats what started this whole thing. Just another spin on it. Maybe she was trying to become the "DON" of wellford. She spoke like she had a mouth full of cotton. LMFAO laugh.gif smile.gif smiley_smartass.gif oh yea.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE (injun51 @ October 15th 2009 12:57 PM) *
Or she could have cousins, nephews, children that are criminals and she didn't want them getting caught. Maybe the cop that got hurt during the foot pursuit was chasing one of her family members and thats what started this whole thing. Just another spin on it. Maybe she was trying to become the "DON" of wellford. She spoke like she had a mouth full of cotton. LMFAO laugh.gif smile.gif smiley_smartass.gif oh yea.gif wink.gif



I know you are tongue and cheek here but I will tell you it blows my mind how many times I hear Ghetto moms for gun control cite they don't want bad Mr. Home Owner shooting junior as part of their reasoning for gun control.
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QUOTE (TomJefferson @ October 15th 2009 10:12 AM) *
I know you are tongue and cheek here but I will tell you it blows my mind how many times I hear Ghetto moms for gun control cite they don't want bad Mr. Home Owner shooting junior as part of their reasoning for gun control.

Its mind numbing to me the way some people think. Its O.K for junior to go out and carry a gun that he only uses for "SELF DEFENSE" against other drug dealers or someone that owes him money, but you law abiding citizens need to have them taken away so my "LITTLE HOOD RAT" DOES'NT GET KILLED BY SOMEONE DEFENDING THEIR FAMILY FROM SUCH A PERSON. How does one's brain even function when its that screwed up. Oh well. I guess i'll just keep the shotgun next to the bed for when "JUNIOR" comes a callin. After MR. 12 GUAGE barks at him i can send him back to the "HOOD" in a ziplock. LMAO really.gif flea.gif
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