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post October 1st 2009 8:12 AM
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ok I just got to thinking since I moved to Okinawa and couldn't bring my stuff with me I stored my AR with wifes folks, this is fine I know they both legally own firearms and nothin about my AR is restricted, but wanting to get some goodies (suppressor and a SBR) brought up a question, what do I gotta do if I have to store them with relatives again?


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post October 1st 2009 12:31 PM
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I would think you would need a trust with them listed as part of it. That way there would be no question about it.


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post October 1st 2009 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (redbarron06 @ October 1st 2009 7:31 AM) *
I would think you would need a trust with them listed as part of it. That way there would be no question about it.


That is what I would do also.


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post October 3rd 2009 12:49 AM
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you can also store them in a locked container that only you have the key to. hard case, etc.


or you can store them in a safe deposit box at a bank. (can, SBR lower, MG lower, etc)
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QUOTE (zack3g @ October 2nd 2009 7:49 PM) *
you can also store them in a locked container that only you have the key to. hard case, etc.


or you can store them in a safe deposit box at a bank. (can, SBR lower, MG lower, etc)

yep... but most banks don't allow firearms, although they technically shouldn't know what you keep in their boxes.
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QUOTE (Energizer @ October 4th 2009 3:42 AM) *
yep... but most banks don't allow firearms, although they technically shouldn't know what you keep in their boxes.



Storing the lower or a suppressor if you have one is really all that is needed. Pull the stock and put the lower in a safe deposit box along with a COPY of the tax stamp paper work.

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I've put guns in my boxes before.

You have to contact your bank and ask their permitted storage procedures. Most, like mine require some kind of disassembly and no ammo. What gets most people hitting the wall doing this is doing it without discussing it first with them and also talking to people low on the food chain. Talking with the bank manager first is the way to go.
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QUOTE (GLShooter @ October 4th 2009 1:21 PM) *
Storing the lower or a suppressor if you have one is really all that is needed. Pull the stock and put the lower in a safe deposit box along with a COPY of the tax stamp paper work.

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the lower? How about the registered part?
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QUOTE (Energizer @ October 4th 2009 1:28 PM) *
the lower? How about the registered part?


The lower receiver is the registered part. Possession of a full auto sear/FCG is not illegal until you have the capabilities of putting an illegal weapon together. If you have the lower n the bank you would be good to go. I figure it is just as easy to store the lower assembled as opposed to total disassembly. You could gut it but that would be a pain.

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QUOTE (GLShooter @ October 4th 2009 6:32 PM) *
The lower receiver is the registered part. Possession of a full auto sear/FCG is not illegal until you have the capabilities of putting an illegal weapon together. If you have the lower n the bank you would be good to go. I figure it is just as easy to store the lower assembled as opposed to total disassembly. You could gut it but that would be a pain.

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that all depends on what weapon you are referring. The upper receiver on an FNC is considered the registered part, for example.... trigger packs, DIAS, etc. All depends on what is registered.
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QUOTE (Energizer @ October 4th 2009 4:48 PM) *
that all depends on what weapon you are referring. The upper receiver on an FNC is considered the registered part, for example.... trigger packs, DIAS, etc. All depends on what is registered.


Kind of like the HK. However I was making the assumption this was an M16 in question. That being the case then it would be have been better tp phrase it "the registered" part as like a drop in auto sear would be one of those.

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I think you are getting some good advice. My understanding is that leaving a NFA weapon or supressor in teh posession of somebody tht it is not registered to is in effect illegaly transfering possesion. If you're in teh military and likely to move from state to state for a while, it is also, a bit of a pain because certain states may not allow the parts or weapons in their state, and transfering to a NFA friendly state still requires notifications of moving your items to a new address, local law enforcemnt notifications etc. I've put any hope of NFA ownership off until I retire from the military.


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QUOTE (SSGN_Doc @ October 4th 2009 7:58 PM) *
I think you are getting some good advice. My understanding is that leaving a NFA weapon or supressor in teh posession of somebody tht it is not registered to is in effect illegaly transfering possesion. If you're in teh military and likely to move from state to state for a while, it is also, a bit of a pain because certain states may not allow the parts or weapons in their state, and transfering to a NFA friendly state still requires notifications of moving your items to a new address, local law enforcemnt notifications etc. I've put any hope of NFA ownership off until I retire from the military.


True. The owner would be guilty of transfer and the "holder" would be guilty of illegal posssession of a machine gun, suppressor.

Greg's advice is good as well.


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post October 25th 2009 11:32 PM
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yep looks like I'm leaving goodies alone for a bit, not that I have a choice where I am right now anyway
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