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August 29th 2009 3:24 AM
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Is 22# going to be enough? The stock double spring setup is rated for 23#. Seems like I had to use heavier for 45 Super (it has been a while but I remember 24).
It's not a bull barrel. That one is supposed be out as an XSE next year (at least that is what Colt told me a couple of weeks ago and demo'd a few years ago at SHOT). A good option for a fitted barrel for a little more $ than the DE would be a Dan Wesson RZ.
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August 29th 2009 5:12 AM
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If you install the flat-bottomed stainless steel EGW firing pin retainer, the slide will be a little harder to rack. This is because the mainspring will be providing a bit more resistance as the slide reaches the apex of its rearward cycle. Because of this, you need no more than 22-pounds of Wolff recoil spring to pemit positive ejection, yet protect the frame of the pistol. This "balance" will ensure your Delta Elite a much longer life. Most "experts" concerning this "alteration" will attest to this.
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August 29th 2009 5:14 AM
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BTW, the Dan Wesson pistols already come with a match barrel/bushing setup. As the man in the spaghetti sauce commercial spot said... "its in there".
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August 29th 2009 6:15 AM
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QUOTE (gunfan @ August 28th 2009 10:14 PM)  BTW, the Dan Wesson pistols already come with a match barrel/bushing setup. As the man in the spaghetti sauce commercial spot said... "its in there".
Scott Yep, that's what I was trying to convey. If someone was looking for a match barrel/bushing I think that a DW would be a better choice than working on a stock DE (I have a 10mm DW already). Dan Wesson sure builds a tight pistol! Thanks for the advice on the spring setup. I have the feeling the FPS/Wolf spring is going to be needed.
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August 29th 2009 3:43 PM
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My pleasure. The DE is a good "builder" pistol, but the DW pistols render the "building" of a pistol unnecessary.
Since this is about Series 80 pisols, how is the trigger on your DE? I have been led to believe that some of the Series 80 pistols have some what "creepy" or "gritty" triggers. Does yours break cleanly? What is its status? I really hope that yout pistol is a good one!
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August 29th 2009 6:28 PM
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QUOTE (remat457 @ August 28th 2009 9:24 PM)  Is 22# going to be enough? The stock double spring setup is rated for 23#. Seems like I had to use heavier for 45 Super (it has been a while but I remember 24).
It's not a bull barrel. That one is supposed be out as an XSE next year (at least that is what Colt told me a couple of weeks ago and demo'd a few years ago at SHOT). A good option for a fitted barrel for a little more $ than the DE would be a Dan Wesson RZ. Yea, the .45 Supers ran with a 28lb spring, IIRC.... (it's been a while) As for the bull barrel question, I didn't even realize that your DE had the standard setup. The old pics from last year's SHOT show led me to believe they were using a bull barrel setup. Honestly, now that I know they went with the standard setup, I might actually grab one of these bad boys for sentimental value.
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August 29th 2009 8:17 PM
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QUOTE (nickE10mm @ August 29th 2009 10:28 AM)  Yea, the .45 Supers ran with a 28lb spring, IIRC.... (it's been a while)As for the bull barrel question, I didn't even realize that your DE had the standard setup. The old pics from last year's SHOT show led me to believe they were using a bull barrel setup. Honestly, now that I know they went with the standard setup, I might actually grab one of these bad boys for sentimental value. I wish that I had that kind of disposable income for such "sentimental" purchases! If I did I think that I'd be preparing to buy a new Bren Ten! Scott
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QUOTE (gunfan @ August 29th 2009 2:17 PM)  I wish that I had that kind of disposable income for such "sentimental" purchases! If I did I think that I'd be preparing to buy a new Bren Ten!
Scott Lol! I wish I had the money, too! I wouldn't be able to afford it anytime soon, actually. If I did I would probably get a Fusion Longslide, anyways hehe....
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September 12th 2009 12:36 AM
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Would love to get a Fusion...just hard for me to justify the expense :(
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September 13th 2009 12:08 AM
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I'd rather spend the money on a Fusion Arms pistol, than on a "built" Delta Elite ANY DAY!
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September 13th 2009 8:18 PM
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QUOTE (gunfan @ September 12th 2009 5:08 PM)  I'd rather spend the money on a Fusion Arms pistol, than on a "built" Delta Elite ANY DAY!
Scott The Fusion I spec'd out was $1500. That's more mad money than I have at the moment One day though!
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October 30th 2009 6:01 AM
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Very nice! Congrats
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Congrats on the new Colt  She looks great
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November 3rd 2009 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (remat457 @ August 27th 2009 1:48 AM)  A couple pics of the new 2009 Colt Delta Elite. Pic quality is not so good as it is just from my Blackberry but I am very pleased with the pistol. This is my second 10mm. My first is a DW Commander Bobtail.   I will always think that's a sexy pistol....
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January 23rd 2010 3:04 PM
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This will be my third post this morning and my last one for today. lol I just bought a Colt 1911 Delta Elite 10mm and I plan on spending a good deal of money on a smith to do a lot of custom work to the gun. I have had two custom Colt 1911 .45 in the past and I loved them. I just prefer to have a smith customize the gun to what I want and I do not mind spending the money on it. Everyone seems to say they do not like the DE because it does not come with the bells and whisles like the DW. What if you had the money to do custom work like myself? What would you choose then and what would you have done to the DE?
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January 23rd 2010 10:23 PM
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I would have all of the "basic" alterations perfromed (to ensure reliability and longevity.) I would then invest in the tightest (and ramped) "match" barrel/bushing setup available. I would like to have the "ultimate" trigger job performed (resulting in a three-pound trigger pull that breaks as does the proverbial glass rod.) I'd have the entire gun, part-by-part plated in NP3 (Electroless Nickle Plating with Teflon.)
That IMHO, should just about do it.
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January 26th 2010 5:47 PM
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QUOTE (gunfan @ January 23rd 2010 3:23 PM)  I would have all of the "basic" alterations perfromed (to ensure reliability and longevity.) I would then invest in the tightest (and ramped) "match" barrel/bushing setup available. I would like to have the "ultimate" trigger job performed (resulting in a three-pound trigger pull that breaks as does the proverbial glass rod.) I'd have the entire gun, part-by-part plated in NP3 (Electroless Nickle Plating with Teflon.)
That IMHO, should just about do it.
Scott What about the different internals you were talking about earlier in this posting? The 22 lb sping and such? Brad
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January 26th 2010 6:14 PM
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This is what I meant when I refered to the "basic alterations" package. IF I hadn't made myself clear this would include:
a) A 22-24 lb Wolff brand recoil spring,
b) an 21.5 lb mainspring (hammerspring),
c) an EGW-brand flat-bottomed, stainless steel firing pin retainer spring and
d) a "trigger job". (This is to ensure the "crispest" trigger you can obtain from a Series 80 system platform).
The reason for the ROBAR NP3 (electroless nicle plating with Teflon) is to make the pistol run smoothly, as well as having the "trigger job" remain crisper, longer.
I hope that that makes my foregoing statements clearer.
Scott
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January 26th 2010 6:16 PM
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P.S. The ramped, match barrel/bushing would make the pistol group as good, or better than a Colt DE Gold Cup. The full-length guide rod is an excellent option, One came in my DW Razorback. I like it.
Scott
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January 26th 2010 6:27 PM
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BTW, the 24 lb Wolff spring is used by shooter that are routinely loading their pistols with VERY hot loads. The heavy mainspring works "in concert" with the flat-bottomed EGW firing pin retainer and the 21.5 lb mainspring to protect the pistol's frame.
These permit you to shoot Double Tap and Buffalo Bore ammunition with relative impunity. These loads are generally better "hunting" and "manstopping" loads than identical bullet weights loaded in the .40 S&W cartridge.
Scott
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