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post October 26th 2009 7:35 PM
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well, im waiting to order a minotaur M-tac, or spartan holster. im leaning towards the spartan because its thiner, just slightly, and cost much less. i dont need the extra leather all over it. but this raises a question.

im a skinny guy. 6'5 at 155-160lbs. i dont wear OVERLY large clothes. so this limits the amount of places i can carry. the gun will be a glock 26, with or without a pinky extension. (i use to have a 27 with extension, but the .40s/w needed it, im not sure if the 9mm 26 WILL need one)

im thinking "mexican" carry might suit me best, or a 2-3 oclock position. how many of you guys carry in these areas, and if your around my build what do you do?

luckily im not in florida anymore, so this lends about half the year were ill be in a jacket or coat of some sort, versus shorts all year round, in florida.. lol


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post October 26th 2009 8:22 PM
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I never suggest Mexican carry. I also don't suggest adding a magazine extension to a G26 or 27, as you're not gaining much in concealment over a 19 or 23. The longer slide is often easy to hide, and the grip is usually the issue.

I carry just behind the hip on my strong side, IWB. If I can't conceal that, I'll do pocket carry with my 2" .38


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post October 26th 2009 8:26 PM
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QUOTE (Pepper @ October 26th 2009 4:22 PM) *
I never suggest Mexican carry. I also don't suggest adding a magazine extension to a G26 or 27, as you're not gaining much in concealment over a 19 or 23. The longer slide is often easy to hide, and the grip is usually the issue.

I carry just behind the hip on my strong side, IWB. If I can't conceal that, I'll do pocket carry with my 2" .38



i have a 2" .38, but thats going around my ankle, when i can't waist my main gun.. i was also thinking, since i usually ALWAYS wear an undershirt, that i could invest in longer plain shirts, and tuck that into the holster, so even if my shirt did move, it would still be covered?

im hoping once i shoot the 26, i wont need the extension. but the snap of the 27 was to much for me to feel comfortable with on follow up shots, without re-positioning. hopefully the 26 will perform like my 17, or close enough.

just out of curiosity, why are you against mexican carry? i like asking you seasoned veterans, versus guessing on my own.. haha
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post October 26th 2009 8:48 PM
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Most of the time I strong side hip carry especially the G26. The gun is so small it conceals very well underneath almost all clothing.

I will occasionally do a small of the back, typically on larger handguns. Excuse the pun but the carry position has a major pitfall in that its location makes drawing slower than the strong side hip. Though I can be pretty fast, I personally put it in the same category as an ankle carry for application.

Basically as non-LEOs and being legal, this pretty much insures the bad guy gets the first move in almost every scenario. We must have a reason to pull that gun. It makes it all so wild wild west like fast draw at noon but that's the way it is. This leaves us only two tactics speed or subterfuge. Some carry positions offer you both while others rely on subterfuge more heavily. Reading the mind of a bad guy let alone predicting it is a difficult thing to do.

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post October 26th 2009 10:10 PM
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I carry IWB at the 8 oclock position, and I'm left handed. I am 6' and 150 lbs, so kinda close to your build. carrying the weapon in the 4 or 8 oclock allows the butt of the weapon to fit inside the curve of your body between your hips and backbone. For us skinny guys our sides aren't "long" enough for the butt of a weapon to follow along it without sticking out past our boddies. That limits us to carrying with the butt paralel to our sotmaches or our backs. Obviously the back is the best. My draw is still pretty fast, I just have to reach like I am grabbing my wallet and it's right there above my pocket. I use Galco's Royal Guard IWB holster, and straddle my second belt loop with the belt attachments.
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post October 27th 2009 5:33 AM
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QUOTE (unsuperman @ October 26th 2009 1:35 PM) *
well, im waiting to order a minotaur M-tac, or spartan holster. im leaning towards the spartan because its thiner, just slightly, and cost much less. i dont need the extra leather all over it. but this raises a question.

im a skinny guy. 6'5 at 155-160lbs. i dont wear OVERLY large clothes. so this limits the amount of places i can carry. the gun will be a glock 26, with or without a pinky extension. (i use to have a 27 with extension, but the .40s/w needed it, im not sure if the 9mm 26 WILL need one)

im thinking "mexican" carry might suit me best, or a 2-3 oclock position. how many of you guys carry in these areas, and if your around my build what do you do?

luckily im not in florida anymore, so this lends about half the year were ill be in a jacket or coat of some sort, versus shorts all year round, in florida.. lol


I got flammed so bad on another site because I would "mexican" carry sometimes. Though at the time, I had the belt/pants that would support such a carry. Not all pants/belts make this possible to do.. Some can forsee this unsafe, but just depends on your gun and such. For my 1911, I'd have the hammer pulled back half way (forget what it's called) as it wouldn't go boom boom unless the hammer was fully back. The XD I rarley kept loaded while that style.

Soon my dress style changed, and found it much easier for me to use an IWB holster. I'm not sure the name of the one I had before, a buddy handed it down to me. That was missplaced somewhere, I think lost while camping?? Anywho so I went out and bought a new one..

I'm like you, I'm 6'4, 156lbs. Tall an skinny. I carry my XD40 in a $13.99 blackhawk holster bought at Bass Pro Shop off I-70/270 junction. It does its job and I find it most comfortable at 4 o'clock.

Just gotta be careful when you bend over, that your shirt doesn't ride up and snag on your firearm.

I'm really looking to get a XD40 sub-compact that I can get in a high-rise OWB holster to wear at 3 or 4 o'clock, as the barrel is shorter and the grip is shorter as well


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post October 27th 2009 5:42 AM
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You got flamed because mexican carry is dangerous.

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For my 1911, I'd have the hammer pulled back half way (forget what it's called) as it wouldn't go boom boom unless the hammer was fully back.

Half-Cock. This plus mexican carry = insane. If your thumb slips while you're trying to go to full-cock you can have a NASTY surprise.

Seriously....who taught you this crap?

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QUOTE (B Coyote @ October 26th 2009 11:42 PM) *
You got flamed because mexican carry is dangerous.


Half-Cock. This plus mexican carry = insane. If your thumb slips while you're trying to go to full-cock you can have a NASTY surprise.

Seriously....who taught you this crap?

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I'm pretty sure if my thumb slips while trying to full-cock, it doesn't strike, IIRC.

I stray away from mexican carry but sometimes you have no choice. I deff wouldn't recomend it for a full daily activity solution laugh.gif
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post October 27th 2009 6:07 AM
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QUOTE (B Coyote @ October 27th 2009 12:42 AM) *
You got flamed because mexican carry is dangerous.


Half-Cock. This plus mexican carry = insane. If your thumb slips while you're trying to go to full-cock you can have a NASTY surprise.

Seriously....who taught you this crap?

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post October 27th 2009 1:46 PM
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post October 27th 2009 5:31 PM
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In my 10+ years as a law enforcement officer, figure out which way is best for you that is legal in your state. Once you have found with your preference, TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN! If you haven't trained drawing from a certain carry style, don't carry - you'll only end up getting yourself and others hurt.
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post November 1st 2009 2:13 AM
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If I can, I usually open carry, mostly because it's easier. I have a hard time concealing in hot weather. If I'm carrying concealed then I have either my glock 22 strong side just behind my hip in a fobus paddle holster under a jacket or long shirt, or my 1911 smalll of the back galco. Usually as I said I prefer open carry.
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QUOTE (teacherman @ October 27th 2009 1:31 PM) *
In my 10+ years as a law enforcement officer, figure out which way is best for you that is legal in your state. Once you have found with your preference, TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN! If you haven't trained drawing from a certain carry style, don't carry - you'll only end up getting yourself and others hurt.

And I repeat this. TRAIN. Train drawing. Train reloading. Train failures. TRAIN. I carry a Charter Arms 44 Bulldog. Inside my waste band leftside and I'm right hand. I also practice with my left hand.


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Sometimes I simply OC. But this is in a low populated gun friendly state.
Otherwise my full size Kimber 10 is carried strong side, in a Don Hume holster. A shirt or vest covers the pistol nicely.


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post November 1st 2009 7:43 PM
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Appendix carry plus a striker fired pistol is a very usable combination. I'm partial to Bladetech and CompTac holsters, but that's just me.


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BTW, what is "mexican" carry? Never heard the term before.
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QUOTE (bfausett84 @ November 2nd 2009 8:34 AM) *
BTW, what is "mexican" carry? Never heard the term before.


A derogatory term for sticking it in the front waistband of your pants. As opposed to appendix carry with a holster in the same position.
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Ah, well that's what I've always called thuglit carry, cause all these little thug wannabes see it on tv and think it's cool. It's also not legal in GA, must be in a holster to carry.
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post November 3rd 2009 5:53 AM
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QUOTE (bfausett84 @ November 2nd 2009 2:44 PM) *
Ah, well that's what I've always called thuglit carry, cause all these little thug wannabes see it on tv and think it's cool. It's also not legal in GA, must be in a holster to carry.



i more so meant carrying it in a holster in that position. not just jamming a gun in my pants lol
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QUOTE (B Coyote @ October 26th 2009 10:42 PM) *
You got flamed because mexican carry is dangerous.


Half-Cock. This plus mexican carry = insane. If your thumb slips while you're trying to go to full-cock you can have a NASTY surprise.

Seriously....who taught you this crap?

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Dangerous in the extreme. When people with experience tell you something, and back it up with solid reasoning, don't try to reinvent the wheel. It's been done, again and again. It's not the way to do things because it can result in losing your gun, shooting off some vital part of your anatomy, and generally looking like a goof.
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