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What's the best 9mm ammo for home defense?
post November 14th 2009 3:52 AM
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I am personally using Hornady Critical Defense in mine now. Most of the major manufacturers seem to have pretty capable loads right now. I am just impressed that my Walther still has never had trouble feeding or ejecting any of them. It is nice to not have to choose based upon what your gun will actually feed and can actually concentrate on the ballistics to see what you prefer. Some are really great at penetrating, some are really good at expanding. Look at the tests and pick the one that fits your desired results.
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post November 14th 2009 4:07 AM
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Extreme Shock is complete and utter crap. When a tiny little upstart company comes up with something like this, the wise man waits to see what happens. If it is truly a huge step forward, and it does great things, major ammunition manufacturers would be beating a path to their doors, carrying truckloads of cash for the rights to use the bullet or it's design. Since I know that Extreme Shock stuff has been around for at least 3-5 years, and I've yet to see any real manufacturer load it, I'm going to assume it's garbage.

Now, even if you disregard my prior assumptions, then let's look at it from another angle. Whenever a new bullet comes out, there is a rush by .gov agencies to test it, if they think it's worth anything at all. I've yet to see any department issue or even approve this ammunition, and I've talked to both regular officers, and to firearms instructors from just about every agency in my state. Some issue Hornady, some issue Remington Golden Sabre, some Ranger SXTs, but the largest number issue either Federal Hydrashoks or Speer Gold Dots. I've heard of exactly ZERO departments issuing or approving any oddball ammunition for handguns.

So, Extreme Shock has gotten a pass from all major ammunition manufacturers, and from law enforcement. I'm thinking it's not all that the tacticool "operators" on their advertising flyers make it out to be.


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post November 15th 2009 12:52 AM
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I'm thinking it's not all that the tacticool "operators" on their advertising flyers make it out to be.

They're still not tacticool enough for HK to love them.

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Taken from extremeshock.com:

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The World's Premier Anti-Terrorist Rounds!
It's a new war, and our nations best warriors now carry the world's most devastating ammunition! As we entrust the de-fense of our freedom in our finest professionals, they now carry an advantage beyond their own heroism! Over ten years in co-development with Special Operations Groups and Federal Law Enforcement, the new ExtremeShock™ Explosive Entry tactical defense rounds represent the ultimate refinement in lethal bullet technology. The compressed Tungsten-NyTrilium™ Composite fragments upon impact, leaving a wound channel of catastrophic proportions. The expansive fragmentation characteristics of the ExtremeShock rounds transfer the bullets energy in a far faster time span than conventional hollowpoints. The resulting stopping power is utterly devastating. E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.


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The World's Premier Anti-Terrorist Rounds!


It's a new war, and our nations best warriors now carry the world's most devastating ammunition! As we entrust the de-fense of our freedom in our finest professionals, they now carry an advantage beyond their own heroism! Over ten years in co-development with Special Operations Groups and Federal Law Enforcement, the new ExtremeShock™ Explosive Entry tactical defense rounds represent the ultimate refinement in lethal bullet technology. The compressed Tungsten-NyTrilium™ Composite fragments upon impact, leaving a wound channel of catastrophic proportions. The expansive fragmentation characteristics of the ExtremeShock rounds transfer the bullets energy in a far faster time span than conventional hollowpoints. The resulting stopping power is utterly devastating. E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.




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That sounds like it should be shot out of something from Star Trek.
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post November 15th 2009 1:26 AM
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So the bullet turns into a tornado of "NyTrilium matrix particles"? Sounds like a round to shoot a snake with.





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post November 15th 2009 1:35 AM
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http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm

Just as I thought, "Extreme Shock" is "Extreme Crap" that tends to lead me to believe that it's an "Extreme Scam".

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