I found a good solution and great prices for adding a rail and scope to my VZ58. On one of these forums, I can't find it, fellow mentioned getting a CenterPoint red/green dot scope. I found the best price ($49.97 - actually came to $ 63 with shipping and tax) at Walmart

And the rail, replaces the front handguards, from FAB for $ 67 inculding shipping from www.IsraelWeapons.com


I got the scope today and it's a sturdy, clear good looking scope and not junk by any means. I put an aimpoint on my AR, but didn't want to spend that kind of money again, and I think this may be the answer.

Put it together and it looks and works great. I can always upgrade a $ 50 scope, and I have yet to take it to the range(it's cold and wet and winter here in West by Gosh.) Getting the upper rail on takes a bit of muscle; it doesn't feel like it will go, but it will. I had to tap the flanges that hold it in to spread them a tiny bit.

Here are the photos:

I thought I was the only one here with a VZ-58.

Hand guards look good, but I do not think they are sturdy enough to mount optics on and keep zeroed,

The rail on bottom would be good for VFG and or lights.

This rifle is many times referred to as the Cadillac of the Ak variants and rightfully so. Those who shoot one love the weight and accuracy right out of the box. The polymer handguards are good for lights and laser but for optics (POOR_MAN) is right it keeps zero worth a SH*&.

There is a Canadian site that sell nothing but VZ-58 stuff. www.vz58.net

They have a Great handguards with full railing system made of aluminum that will keep a zero. Not cheap ($275)but the good Sh*& never is.



There are also lots of people making their own VZ-58 .... type in "vz-58 build" in Google and you will find "how to" and step by steps. You can walk away from the projects piecing together your own for around $450-650.



Accuracy is crazy. CZ USA saying they have an effective range of 875 yards. With a good hand load ammo, good scope set up, and a bi-pod you will me kicking ass and taking names at over 650 yards...
With a good muzzle break and folding stock it might become your GO TO FIREARM

There is also this mount called a VZ SCOUT the replace you Rear sight.
Cheaper then the full rail system and set the sight close to the face for around $100-130


This post has been edited by pathfinder: January 26th 2009 5:18 AM

ACK, The beautiful VZ covered in Chicom, I believe you should give it to me as I will care for it properly.

What I would recommend you do is get the barrel and striker unit cryogenically treated....



www.cryogenicsinternational.com will treat you stuff for about $7-15/per lbs...



I spent many hours talking to the owners (Charles) about the the treatment process. He has treats most the the US army special forces guys Springs, bolt carry, and barrels to thier M4 and M-14 for then before deploying to Afghanistan.

If you meet him in person you can ask to see all the cool plagues and seals thanking him from different units deployed there.

I had someone the other day ask me about whats the best set up. 7.62 X 39 system AK for self defense?

I told him you have to be realistic keep your weapon as light as possible. No know one wants to carry around a 11-12lb rifle with a bunch of tactical "junk" like IR laser...
&
IF you do have to shoot at someone
1. Its not going to more then 100 yards away(else its more then likely not going to be self defense)
2. Load your weapon with a mag of hollow points. You doing want the rounds to keeping going through innocent people houses and cars
3. Be smart Run, Shoot, and/or Hide (in what every order)..... let the cops chase the bad guys down

I think they're plenty sturdy enough for optics, and surely will support a red dot, which is what I mounted on it. Maybe not a 12x scope. Yeah, you're probably right: if I run it over with my F250 it won't stay zeroed.

Some of us don't have $ 275, so a $ 67 rail that accomodates a budget red dot works nicely. Ah, if we could all buy as many of the latest AimPoints as we wanted....

I am newbie as well and just bought a VZ 58. I bought some FAB furniture and I for the life of me can't get it on. Any suggestions?

TIA,
TLS

I installed the FAB rail about 2 months ago. The top part was confusing because there are no instructions with the kit. There are 2 parts to the top, the plastic/wood furniture piece and the metal that it attaches to.

To remove it you need to spin the furniture piece off of the metal piece in a circular fashion all the way around till it comes off. It doesnt quite feel natural when you are doing this but once you try a few times you will notice it has some give and eventually you'll just spin it all the way around.

Now that you have gotten it off the hard part is getting the new top rail onto the metal piece. Line up the metal into the plastic. Once you get all of the metal on the plastic slide it into it in a circular fashion the same way you got the original furniture off of it.

Once you get it on there completely you have to adjust it left to right so that the hole in the back lines up with the pin. This took a bit of work on my end and I had to use a small hammer to get the pin in. After going to the range twice I finally decided to take the pin out and see if it has settled into a good alignment and it had.

I think I tried this about 3 times 20 min each time before I got it right. It was very frustrating but now its awesome. I have an Eotech 512 on it now with a foregrip on the bottom and it is totally badass. Once I sighted it in I am putting all of my rounds within 3 inches of the bullseye. If I took my time and shot slower I am sure my accuracy would be much better but I usually shoot my rounds about 2 seconds apart.

nickg_houston,
Thanks for the response. I was able to get the FAB stuff on and it rocks. I will post a picture as soon as I get the stock I want for it to finish it off. The tip on spinning it was spot on.

Thanks again!
TLS

That is pretty cool. Looks like a good mount.

If I wasn't attached to the Cold War simplicity of my VZ, I would go for something like that.