I am sure that many of you have heard about Tennessee passing the "take your gun to dinner" bill this week. The law has always allowed buisness to "post" to prohibit guns. The state of very specific as far as how to post it to make it legal. But many folks think the slashed gun will do it but it dont.

So with all of the news many of the restaruarnt owners/managers have been saying they will post thier property. I stumbled on this online and our state gun assn is thinking about having something similar made up for us to pass out to companies that post againt our rights.



What do you guys think of having a few of these on hand?

How do I handle it?

"What sign?"

Someone asks me to leave because I'm carrying, its their place of business and I'll leave. Hasn't happened yet.

As far as protesting the signs, it's against my principles. Unlike our government, I still see stores as private property and thus like homes. If someone doesn't want me to carry then that is their right to ask me not to and its polite of me to comply if I know.

I don't spend a lot of time looking for signs at the front of stores.

Tj

What he said. If I'm carrying concealed, it's concealed. If there's an accidental jacket riding up or something, then they can ask me to leave, and I will. But until/unless, f-'em.

Well...if I know ahead of time..... I don't go. I just don't like to go places where I am not "wanted"

No signs here.

+1

I do not intend on being a victim of a violent crime, just because a manager or store owner has pre-judged me and my behavior. How do I, or the owner, know what his other customers have in their pocket, bag, or purse? What if a hoodrat enters with a weapon, and attempts to rob the place, or worse, take hostages? Why should I, and my family, be left defenseless because this owner says so?

I'll take my business elsewhere.

It's obvious, by posting a "No Guns Allowed" sign, that the owner doesn't trust me, yet he wants my money?
Uh, do you think the criminal element doesn't read the sign?
Now they know, there are no weapons in here!
Good place to rob, and do some shootin.'
Not me!
Go do a goat, buddy!

Any business open to the public, is open to the public.
The establishment is a public place, and as such, should be open to all.

The owner is more concerned with the potential for a liability lawsuit, than he is of his/her customers.
Hey, if he doesn't respect me, then why should I patronize his business?

I'll take my buisness elsewhere, let the owner know it (politely).
Eventually the buisness will relent because the poeple with money are the ones he needs.

I dont go in places that post signs like that even if I am not carrying. I dont support business's like that.

Yep, i just walk away (or ignore it)

There was a time when i was traveling through west Texas and was involved in an accident that totaled my truck. i was in the small town of Ozona and was in need of a new (to me) vehicle. i was visiting a local robber (used car sales place) and was interested in a cheap form of transportation. we spoke for some time and i was set on the purchase. as we began to enter the office i noticed the penal code 30.06 sign outside on the front door. i stop from entering and the sales man asked if i was going to enter. i politely stated that i could not enter the office and would not buy from this biz because i dont feel i could spend my money at such a establishment. he seemed bamboozaled and asked why. i pointed to the sign and he asked me to please hold..... he ran inside and a few moments later he came out with the owner and ripped off the sign and tossed it in the trash right in front of me.
well that changes everything i said. and bought the car.

Signs! What signs?

Concealed is concealed. Until they've got people w/ metal detectors wanding at entry points, and armed guards stationed everywhere to prevent or stop Bad People ™ from doing Bad Things ™ to ME and mine, they can fuzz right the hell off. If a business place is open to the public, it should be treated as any other public place. If it's an exclusive-entry type deal then they can exclude anyone they want, including gun toters. But movie theaters/stores/eateries that aren't members-only type places shouldn't be allowed to exclude pistol packers in my opinion. Might be private property, but those places are private property open to the public. It does contrast with my mostly libertarian/conservative side, but I can deal with that. Worst they can do if they find out I'm armed is ask me to leave. Except for the few occasions I open carry - they won't know I'm armed until/unless I have to display the firearm to stop soemthing bad from happening to me or my companions.

I have my ccw and my ffl, if there is a sign I don't go, no big stink, what ever.. but you all that are going on about public places, non-members blah blah blah what are you saying about court houses, state housess, if you want your drivers license, what to vote, what to talk to your goverment offical. pay your fine, getting your CCW, go to the police any and all of these things you can not carry and there are signs that say that. And they are all owned by US and are Public

Just what do you do then !!!!

True - I also tend to vote with me feet. I just would choose not to go there. Even though I have a CCW, I am at fault for not carrying as often as I should, in as many locations as I could.

Federal property, the secure-areas of airports, and court houses are the only government entities specified by the law that expressly prohibit carrying. We can even carry in public schools in Oregon. Can also carry into the DMV and even the halls of the Oregon State Capitol building. City or county buildings that aren't expressly laid out in the law as being off-limits get the same treatment as any other place - they can ask you to leave if they find out you're carrying and if you refuse you can be arrested for tresspass. Concealed is concealed.

I don't see signs banning guns, I see signs telling me to be a victim. I give them (the signs) the one finger salute and keep on walkin in. If they see that I'm carrying and they ask me to leave I will, isn't worth losing breath on nor going to jail due to some douche saying I threatened him with my carry gun. Ain't saying I have or will but I've heard stories of a$$holes lying to the cops and them buying that bottom feeders story. I don't like Unarmed Victim zones and I generally don't go into them unless I absolutely have to. Really only see those signs at malls in Minnesota which are illegal because a landlord in the state of Minnesota has no right to ban firearms. Plus, if they won't let me leave they call the cops and I get a $25 ticket and I don't surrender my firearm. Most cops I have ran into are generally 2nd Amendment lovers and will side with a Permit Holder anyways

Same here.....Many of my friends shop at Costco...but the local Costco has big no-weapons signs, and I refuse to go there. I do all my shopping at Sams Club instead.

Here in Arizona we have open carry....and it's not that unusual to see someone carrying a weapon unconcealed in grocery stores, banks whatever....so any business in this region that still puts up a sign must be virulently anti-gun...and doesn't deserve my business.


The only time I DON'T carry...is when I have absolutely no choice but to go to someplace that doesn't allow weapons...but that is very rare. Most DMV business can be done via the internet here, and I can go to a UPS store or a mailboxes plus or whatever rather than go into a post office. My kids are homes-chooled so I don't have any reason to enter a public school. Now that I think about it the only time I can remember leaving my house without my XD45 is on Election day (as they aren't allowed at a polling place...and I won't forfeit my right to vote), I don't even go to church unarmed (with all the church shootings recently I would hope more people start feeling that way)

Here in KS, there are MANY loopholes in the laws for CCW in non CCW mraked buiness'. Basically, unless it's a state reg/issued sign it doesn't count, I can enter an unmarked entrance in a marked building, etc etc, and above all else- it's only a very minor misdemeanor. Carry on with your buisness...............pun intended.