The lights they make nowadays will fill a descent room with bright light all over. In smaller rooms, turning on one of my brighter lights will actually make ME have to let my eyes adjust, and Im behind the light. If you are anywhere in front of it you are done. Now if they are behind you, then you have a whole different set of problems.

How did we get to strobes we are talking curent in use tactics my whole point here is to point out any flaws in the system to keep people from geting wet because we have been useing tactics developed by people at high dollar entry fee training lodges and not learning from mistakes made by those who have been there

Yes, I know this, but I still have seen them on TV and movies.

I think the solution to this problem is to make flashbangs legal. LOL

Man I would love that. I would have a pistol with a light on it, and a few flashbangs on my night stand. lol

They have their place and where applicable very useful.

They also don't have their place. For example, going outside with a gun in your hand to investigate a noise then shining your light and gun on a cop will make for an unhappy ending.

Tj

and cops should understand if they are trespassing onto someone's property, even if investigating a potential crime in progress, etc.-- that the owner, or third-party defending the owner or property, may also be on the premises and shouldn't be upset if drawn down on til identified. What happened to Stu is total BS.

What happened recently to the homeowner who was shot by police is also total BS.

back to training and tactics...what do yall think is most important for getting a well-aimed shot, like the most important deciding factor that determines if shot is on/off target?

i say trigger control, night or day

ok but this debate needs some borders, short distance ie under 50m, or a midrange say 200-300m, offhand or supported, light or dark, under stress or relaxed shooting, is target alone or among innocents, and what kind of time limit to take shot

Say you have the "advantage".
A single person is not going to be coming into that room.
Several people are. Several people with the training to deal with other people who think they are clever.

Whatever "advantage" you think you have will evaporate on your first aggressive move.
Cornering yourself is not giving yourself any sort of advantage.

Some Agencies are trained to hold a light away from their body btw, to strip you of the one ray of hope (pun intended) you think you have.
Some (most) entry teams also lead with ballistic shields, some with lights, some not.

it all really depends on the situation. Every site is different. This is why people train.

"Should be" means for naught if you are dead or in jail with your gun rights taken.

Realty is its against the law to point a gun at someone unless its under certain conditions, threat or defense of property in some cases, but never a cop while on duty and has the right to be there. That gives him leeway to shoot and/or prosecute. Outside your home, he has the right to be there.

That puts it squarely into LEO discretion to shoot, prosecute, or forget, then all kinds of things come into play from he's having a bad day to your attitude.

Its not that hard and you don't loose that much tactical advantage to switch to a handgun and hand held tactical light when going outside. It beats becoming a statistic which in my own personal experience across seven states has been about 100% faced nervous cops with loaded or pointed firearms and 50% going to jail.

Tj

If I seen someone with alight coming in my house i would be worried. Its law enfocement?? Or a burglar with a nice weapon setup. Yikes....anyways I would unload about 5 rounds in the general area of the light and see how they likes that...if they dont then I have 25 more for them.
You are gonna loose you nitesight after firing anyways..gonna have that globe of light sitting in your eyes from the burst.
Tough call like I said about this...both have there benefits. I prefer my eyes...instead of a beacon light saying Iam over here. Of course if you cannot see because it totally dark then i would have to take a light. Maybe a bic!!!
Just my opinion....