Anybody know who makes a grip or guide rod lazer sight-anybody have a used one? Oh ya for Full size Witness.
Thanks

This post has been edited by jjredmond: November 30th 2008 9:47 PM

Have you looked at LaserMax or Crimson Trace? I'm not sure if doing a search spelling "laser" vs. "lazer" will give you any different result. You may want to try that as well. Good luck in your search.

Here is a link to Crimsom Trace: Crimson Trace Laser Sights

I have a set on a 1911, well worth the money IMO. Haven't had any experience with LaserMax.

Tried both spellings 1st I may be new but I do try and not be stupid around you folks.
Thanks for the website and I will give them a call. I'm building up one gun for all out protection mode.
I'm going to be doing some things on my 10 Witness that can be used on all semi auto's
I'll have pictures in a week or two depending on availability of end mill; simple process but a vast improvement in sight picture under stress or other wise.
Haven't seen it done before. Remember not everything has been invented yet.
John

It looks as if I'll be the sole voice of dissent on this thread. I don't particularly care for laser sights on pistols. If you need something to aid in night shooting, "tritium" sights seem to be the way to go. If they are replaced every 7-8 years, they will serve you well.

Scott

Have you ever tried them or just dislike them on principle? I bought a cheapo set for about 50 bucks years ago, (even came with a holster), that bolted to the trigger guard and when I finally got them sighted in it was absolutely amazing to see a bullet hole appear wherever the dot was. It lasted about a box of shells before the 10mm shocked it to death. It's not a cure all though. If you thought your aim was shaky looking over sights it was really discouraging to see that dot jumping around on the x ring. At least you didn't have to worry about the sight picture. Older eyes appreciate that. I'd love to have a set of CTs even though the Lasermax probably deals with parralax better. A little pricey these days for me.

I don't like either the green or red dot of the laser revealing my location! If the BG can se it, he can kill me before I can use the pistol. While the light from Tritium sights can light your face, the red "dot" from a Helium-Neon gas laser is a dead give away! This is the source of my misgivings/reservations.

Scott

Scott, I just put a pair of Crimson Trace on my Beretta Tomcat. I carry it a lot more than I carry my Kimber 10mm, and with my "50 something" eyes they're a beautiful thing! I zeroed them at 20', and the rounds hit right where I want them. The Beretta has an all black finish and tiny sights, the laser grips make a sight picture very, very quick to attain.

I'm sold on them, and I asked Santa for a pair for my Kimber Stainless Target II.

Mike

I guess if you tend to "flip up the pistol and shoot" the laser sights are okay. I am 54 years old and can still hit where I wish rather quickly. I don't play, and I give but one warning. After that, BANG! Dead BG. That's how it works. I am alive, the BG isn't.

Scott

Hmm, interesting. I'll take that as a no that you've never used one. They are useless as a flashlight and the one I used had a micro-switch on the grip that turned it on and off with very little pressure as I squeezed the grip. I suppose in a pitch black situation you might have something but I don't know why you'd have it turned on anyway. I'm sure you realize that the tritium is lighting your face because you have to use the sights to aim. While you could see your sights with a tritium setup you still have to be able to see your target in order to aim at anything, laser or otherwise. You can use anchor point or waist level aiming with a laser without even glancing at the gun. I guess if you're playing sneaky peek with a BG and leave the laser on continous mode you might be at a disadvantage but I still think the better option is to be able to put a round on target without even being able to see the sights on the gun, or for that matter the gun itself. To each his own.

I could be wrong, hopefully not dead wrong! Any thing electronic that requires a battery to operate seems to fail when needed the most and this includes lasers, flash lights and yes even smoke detectors. Rechargeable batteries forget about it!

That said, If you rely on these electronic aids for target acquisition or identification you must test the battery's condition, both the electrical properties and a physical exam for leakage or corrosion of the battery and connections to insure reliability of function. In the Fire service we advised people to test their Smoke Detectors every month and change the batteries when the daylight savings time change occurs. Still we lose people to the rage of fire.

Will the devices hang up or impead the presentation of the weapon from holster, through ready position, to firing position? Thing about presentation from a barrier (home & auto) such as a door jam, window ledge. Will these devices snag during presentation?

If you install and depend on these devices you should practice with them in various situations (even live ammunition) and lighting levels. You should be proficient (second nature) with the controls for these devices in total darkness. Remember light can help and also complicate the situation for you and the perp with temporary blindness such as the on/off flash of light in extreme dark areas, your eyes will need time to adjust. You can take advantage of this with a good flashlight.

Remember if you discharge the firearm in extremely dark areas, your eyes will need time to adjust. Again a flashlight can help you overcome this faster.

Be careful with stroboscopic type lights, movement can be masked somewhat.

I am not saying don't use these items, but be aware of your limitations with them, and their short comings vs. their advantages! Practice Proficiency!