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 November 11th 2009 8:36 AM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 2:48 AM)  TRP is not a custom shop gun and has no different materials or processes than the Loaded line. It is no more accurate or reliable. For your extra $400 they stamp TRP on the slide. They make some beautiful Loaded models that concede nothing to the TRP. Tell that to this guy!  I've shot it & it's tack driver! BTW does it have MIM parts?
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November 11th 2009 9:19 AM
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I have two guns... one for each of you.
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QUOTE (superstratjunky @ November 11th 2009 2:36 AM) Tell that to this guy! I've shot it & it's tack driver! BTW does it have MIM parts? Probably shoot just as good with a loaded. And yes the TRP has MIM, just like the loaded.
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November 11th 2009 9:22 AM
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I have two guns... one for each of you.
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QUOTE (pleaforwar @ November 11th 2009 1:58 AM) Screw it.
Rampy, go out and handle both models and come to your own conclusion. Hell, shoot em both if you can.
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November 11th 2009 1:26 PM
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November 11th 2009 1:30 PM
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QUOTE (pleaforwar @ November 11th 2009 1:25 AM) "Aside from cosmetics..." eh? Coming from the guy who spent how much for cosmetic upgrades on a Les Baer?!?!
The TRP is a much better built firearm. Yea the finish is better, which is something you EXPECT with a more expensive pistol. Know what else is better? The slide-to-frame fit, hell, the overall fit and finish.
I have never seen any mechanical issues with TRP's, but I have seen a Loaded that couldn't even chamber the top 3 rounds of a magazine that was fully loaded (and yes, we tried multiple brand magazines). This is what I've found from lurking & reading on different forums. QUOTE (pleaforwar @ November 11th 2009 1:25 AM) In fact, now that I think about it, don't go with either... get a Taurus. It's basically the same thing minus all the cosmetic upgrades. Hell, it's even made in the same country! 
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November 11th 2009 1:31 PM
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November 11th 2009 1:38 PM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 1:48 AM) TRP is not a custom shop gun and has no different materials or processes than the Loaded line. It is no more accurate or reliable. For your extra $400 they stamp TRP on the slide. They make some beautiful Loaded models that concede nothing to the TRP. QUOTE (pleaforwar @ November 11th 2009 1:58 AM) Screw it.
Rampy, go out and handle both models and come to your own conclusion. Have and the TRP was the better finished & fit & felt better & seemed to have a tighter slide to frame fit & it seems it's more accurate from what I have read. Here's a cut and paste from another forum: The TRP pistol is a factory pistol which has been upgraded with more hand fitting than a standard factory pistol, as well as a 2 piece mag well, night sights, and better tuning internally. It has a quoted accuracy of 2.5" or better at 25 yards with match ammunition. It has the front cocking serrations and full length guide rod, just like the other factory "loaded" models. These pistols are finished with Springfield's Armory Kote finish, which is a painted on, baked on finish similar to the Black T finish.
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November 11th 2009 2:08 PM
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You cant go wrong with eather Heck the service you get from SA if there is a prob is amazing  I would buy anouther SA LONG befor a colt 80! I cant stand the 80 sieres
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November 11th 2009 5:29 PM
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Called the "local" Sportsmans Warehouse to see if they have a black TRP in stock as it's only a 2.5 hour drive to the store...
Yeppers they do have em in stock for $1,440.....with a 6.5% sales tax.....
GunBroker has em for around $1,350 for the most part give or take $50 but a couple are cheaper by a couple hundred till bidding on em picks up...
Sigh do I want to drive 5 hours and come home with a TRP or wait & save some $$$ and hopefully get one before the end of the world....
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November 11th 2009 5:41 PM
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QUOTE (Rampy @ November 11th 2009 10:29 AM) Called the "local" Sportsmans Warehouse to see if they have a black TRP in stock as it's only a 2.5 hour drive to the store...
Yeppers they do have em in stock for $1,440.....with a 6.5% sales tax.....
GunBroker has em for around $1,350 for the most part give or take $50 but a couple are cheaper by a couple hundred till bidding on em picks up...
Sigh do I want to drive 5 hours and come home with a TRP or wait & save some $$$ and hopefully get one before the end of the world.... SGC has them for $1399 but you have to pay for shipping and transfer fee on your end.
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November 11th 2009 5:45 PM
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QUOTE (Rampy @ November 11th 2009 11:29 AM) Called the "local" Sportsmans Warehouse to see if they have a black TRP in stock as it's only a 2.5 hour drive to the store...
Yeppers they do have em in stock for $1,440.....with a 6.5% sales tax.....
GunBroker has em for around $1,350 for the most part give or take $50 but a couple are cheaper by a couple hundred till bidding on em picks up...
Sigh do I want to drive 5 hours and come home with a TRP or wait & save some $$ and hopefully get one before the end of the world.... I could have bought one this Spring for $1300 at the local shop. Have not seen one since. It's ok as I bought the Valor instead.
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November 11th 2009 5:49 PM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 10:45 AM) I could have bought one this Spring for $1300 at the local shop. Have not seen one since. It's ok as I bought the Valor instead.  
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November 11th 2009 5:57 PM
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I did like the front strap checkering on the TRP, it's very aggressive. Lot of grip there, folks with soft womanly hands (Plea) might want to wear gloves.
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November 11th 2009 6:05 PM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 11:57 AM) I did like the front strap checkering on the TRP, it's very aggressive. Lot of grip there, folks with soft womanly hands (Plea) might want to wear gloves. Ummmm, that might be a problem for me, I like my ____ beaters nice and soft.......
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November 11th 2009 6:14 PM
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Did you notice it when you handled it?
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November 11th 2009 6:15 PM
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Got to Keep the Hands soft  If not for yourself then for the WIFE
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November 11th 2009 6:19 PM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 11:57 AM) I did like the front strap checkering on the TRP, it's very aggressive. Lot of grip there, folks with soft womanly hands (Plea) might want to wear gloves.
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November 11th 2009 6:20 PM
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QUOTE (oak1971 @ November 11th 2009 10:57 AM) I did like the front strap checkering on the TRP, it's very aggressive. Lot of grip there, folks with soft womanly hands (Plea) might want to wear gloves. Oak's logic: Plea recommends the TRP. The TRP has a very agressive front strap. That must mean Plea has soft, womanly hands!  And I'm not the one who plays "dress-up" with my 1911's every other day. "Hmmmm, I wonder if my Baer would be prettier with these stocks or the others? Oh life is full of tough decisions!" 
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November 11th 2009 6:20 PM
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November 11th 2009 6:22 PM
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QUOTE (Rampy @ November 11th 2009 11:05 AM) Ummmm, that might be a problem for me, I like my ____ beaters nice and soft....... Sorry Ramp, but I don't think  makes 1911's yet. You know if they did, Oak would already have one!
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