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post January 28th 2005 1:18 PM
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Anyone done any work loading for 8-9" barrels? Any Contender guys or Oly SBR guys?

Vector is releasing thier new toy soon, I'm wondering if someone has already created this wheel. Is 200gr @ 1600 possible?
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post January 29th 2005 6:23 AM
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QUOTE(ChuckJaxFL @ Jan 28 2005, 07:18 AM)
Is 200gr @ 1600 possible?
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Don't know if thats possible or not, but there are a couple of guys here that have some AR-style carbines in 10mm. Also don't reload... yet. Will look more into load data...


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ya don't know until you you've worked it up an chronoed it. You're not likely to get a major boost in velocity by going to differant powders but you might be able to get powders that are too slow for good velocity in a pistol to post good numbers in a carbine.

Ulitimately the pressure spike that is the limiting factor occurse pretty early on in a pistol round so you don't pick up as much velocity going to a longer barrel as you loose going to a shorter barrel in a rifle round. Whatever the velocity of a max load of AA #9 gives you out of the carbine is going to be your best numbers in a 200 gr buellet and will probably be compedative with AA #7 with lighter bullets in longer barrels but the only way to find out it to chrono the loads from the gun.


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post February 1st 2005 3:58 PM
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I have a T/C Contender carbine with a 18.5" barrel in 10mm. With 9.6grs of IMR 800X and a 200gr Hornady XTP I get an average velocity of about 1450fps to 1500fps. With 13.5grs of the same powder and a 135gr Nosler HP I am getting an average velocity of about 2030fps.
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QUOTE(Camp Cook @ Feb 1 2005, 07:58 AM)
I have a T/C Contender carbine with a 18.5" barrel in 10mm. With 9.6grs of IMR 800X and a 200gr Hornady XTP I get an average velocity of about 1450fps to 1500fps. With 13.5grs of the same powder and a 135gr Nosler HP I am getting an average velocity of about 2030fps.
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QUOTE(Camp Cook @ Feb 1 2005, 10:58 AM)
I have a T/C Contender carbine with a 18.5" barrel in 10mm. With 9.6grs of IMR 800X and a 200gr Hornady XTP I get an average velocity of about 1450fps to 1500fps. With 13.5grs of the same powder and a 135gr Nosler HP I am getting an average velocity of about 2030fps.
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Woooo! okee, so 200 @ 1600 is obviously out, but wow... 135@2030! 18.5" barrel huh? That's a long ol' barrel!

My 1006 launches 135's around 1525 - 1550 w/ 10.6 of PowerPistol. I suppose I'm looking for too much from just another 3¾".
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From what I have read, I think that peak velocities for a 10mm would be with a barrel of about 10 to 12 inches in length. The 10mm reaches its top velocities very quickly so other than for legal reasons you don't need a barrel as long as mine.

"YES" it is a fun little rifle to pack around and plink with. Just this last Sunday I went up into the local mountains put my pack on and with my G20 and my T/C with a 4X mini Burris scope their where not many things that didn't get shot.
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I'm also looking at getting a Vector 10mm H&K clone. I don't think that loading this particular firearm hot is a good thing to do. This weapon starts off as a modified 9mm as far as designs go. If you are looking for warm to hot loads than the #25 locking piece is a must, without the gun will beat itself to an early grave.
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QUOTE (ChuckJaxFL @ January 28th 2005 8:18 AM) *
Anyone done any work loading for 8-9" barrels? Any Contender guys or Oly SBR guys?

Vector is releasing thier new toy soon, I'm wondering if someone has already created this wheel. Is 200gr @ 1600 possible?



I use Titegroup on all my pistol/subgun loads
In my 10mm Mp-5 clone .
I just chronoed some 170 gr nosler hollow points I used 6.0 grains with a Wolf large pistol magnum primer with an OAL of 1.250,1.252,1.255 & 1.260" just to see different velocities @ crimp length they are respectivley -1214 fps w 556 ft/lbs- 1228fps w/569ft/lbs 1232fps w/573 ft/lbs and 1241fps 581ft/lbs

165 Gr Montana Gold flat pts. Titegroup powder weights at 5.5 gr, 5.8 gr, 6.0gr, & 6.4 gr with OAL of 1.250 velocities/energy respectivley
1130fps/467ft/lbs, 1190fps/518ft/lbs, 1212fps/538ft/lbs, 1274fps/594ft/lbs

155Gr PRVI Partisan JHP Titegroup powder weights at 6.5gr & 6.6gr OAL length of 1.250 velocitites/energy respectivley
1385fps/660ft/lbs 1401/676ft/lbs
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