folks: We get a lot of questions and opinions about these optics, and I'm going to do a compilation of the various posts. I'm going to leave the thread open so feel free to add your $.02. I only request that you keep your comments limited to Aimpoint products and Eotech products. Discuss what you like or dislike all day, but posts about ACOG and other brands need to go somewhere other than this thread. What I'm envisioning is an Aimpoint/Eotech Quick Reference Guide for our new folks. Please be sure to include any practical experience you have with these!




For a list of related threads without having to sift through mountains of optics related stuff, check these out:


Eotech 3x http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eotech-3x-t22110.html

Pics of the Eotech 3x http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Pics-EOTe...ier-t18039.html

Eotech vs Aimpoint http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EoTech-Aimpoint-t20596.html

Aimpoints and scopes http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoints...pes-t19903.html

Eotech questions http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/eotech-question-t18603.html

Eotech and Aimpoint questions http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-...ion-t17951.html

I mounted an Aimpoint H1 http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/mounted-A...-op-t17590.html

Eotech zero http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTECH-t13594.html

Eotech 554 http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTECH-554-t13779.html

Eotech 552 vs 553 http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTECH-554-t13779.html

Aimpoint clone BEWARE http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/AIMPOINT-M2-t13185.html

Eotech magnifier http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Shot-Show...ion-t13006.html

What Aimpoint to get http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aim-Point-t12477.html

Aimpoint or Eotech http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-Eotech-t978.html

Who else is waiting on the magnified Eotech http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-Eotech-t978.html

Eotech 553 review http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/553-Thread-t10144.html

Eotech riser mounts http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eotech-ra...unts-t8907.html

Aimpoint vs Eotech Costs http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-...osts-t8839.html

Where to mount new Eotech http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/rifle-con...ight-t8775.html

Eotech 552 vs 553 http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTech-552-553-t5500.html

Eotech riser http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eotech-Raiser-t5277.html

Eotech riser YHM http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/YHM-riser...ched-t5422.html

Aimpoint vs Clone http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-...de-1-t3612.html

Aimpoint mount http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Aimpoint-...vice-t3450.html

Eotech Optic lesson http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eotech-Op...on-1-t2550.html

Eotech--How far are they good for http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTECH-good-t827.html

Eotech cowitnessing http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTech-co...tion-t2249.html

Eotech 4x magnification photos - mag vs non-mag http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EOTech-4X...oto-t26061.html

This post has been edited by captainbarred: February 21st 2008 3:34 PM

Aim Point ------------------------------------------------------------- Eotech






**originally posted by Barnacle here: http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/forums.html...29888

This post has been edited by Colt45Guy: November 13th 2007 12:35 AM

I don't believe either is 'better' or 'worse'....it all depends on the user's preference. This is my opinion of the 2.

Eotech:
Pros

65 MOA circle w/ 1 MOA dot. Lets you pick up targets fast and still be precise.
Lots of brightness adjustments
several models with different batteries, including easy to find AA batteries.
Built in mount, commercial QD mounts available.
Large window allows for faster target acquisition. (IMO)
Less expensive than a comparable Aimpoint.
Rugged


Cons

Short battery life. Typically 150 hrs or less with a set of batteries on a medium bright setting (carry spares).
No glass covers.
Push buttons harder to operate under stress. On--touch a button. Brighten, touch 1 button (repeatedly). Dim, 1 button (repeatedly). Off, hold both buttons at once.



Aimpoint
Pros

insane battery life....10,000 hrs on one battery
simple operation...single roll on/off control rheostat
comes with lens covers. (can be used as an Occluded Eye Gunsite in very bright sunlight)
Rugged
choice of 2 or 4 MOA dot

Cons

More expensive of the 2.
Expensive mounts, no mount included.
30mm tube very slightly slower than Eotech window (IMO...GreenAmmo's opinion is opposite)
Dot initially harder to locate in bright sunlight




Whichever you choose between the 2, I don't think you can go wrong....but try 'em both if possible.


http://www.eotech-inc.com/index2.php for an Eotech simulator.

http://www.aimpoint.com/whats_up/downloads/3d for an Aimpoint simulator


**originally posted by your's truly here: http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EoTech-Aimpoint-t20596.html

This post has been edited by Colt45Guy: November 13th 2007 12:36 AM

Dang, Colt! You da man!!

I was trying to find the Aimpoint/Eotech comparison picture and it took me about an hour.....so I figgered I'd clean up.

good idea for a thread.

Recenty got the Aimpoint Comp M4. Got no complaints....so far!

Anyone here had one and switched to the other?

This post has been edited by vmark78: December 31st 2007 2:50 AM

is the eotech 512 ideal for 100 yards??? i've been dying to get one but i've heard rumors that red dot are more for closer say like at 50 rather than 100 yards.

One of the better compilations that I have seen in a long time thank you.

i am sure he would say you are welcome, but he is deployed at the moment, and his internet is sparse, to say the least. i am sure i can speak for him when i say that he is happy you enjoyed his thread.

he put a lot of work into compliling all of that.

It can be. The Eotech has a 1moa dot, inside of a 65moa circle. That means that at 100 yards, the center dot will cover one inch, and the circle will cover a 65 inch area. There is no magnification, so that can be a detriment at longer ranges. However, Eotech makes a nifty little magnifier that can mount behind the Eotech unit itself, and with the proper mounts, will pivot right out of the way should you wish to use it without magnification. This will increase the price considerably, but IMHO, you get what you pay for.

The main benefit of a red dot sight, is the ability to acquire a target quickly. You can shoot with both eyes open generally, so you can see what is happening around you with your peripheral vision. It's intended for CQB work, but will work well at longer ranges if you do your part. The Aimpoint also has some issues in this regard, as it's dot covers a much larger area. This might not be a huge issue, but it will hamper precision placement at long range compared to the Eotech.

Glad you found it useful!

Thanks a ton dude!! I have been debating, a lot lately lol, of scopes and uppers... This definitely aids in the research department... :)

I'm a Field MP currently serving in the Al Anbar Province with the Marines. I have switched my issued ACOG to my own personal AIMPOINT COMP ML2 on my M4. It is so much easier to acquire targets at close distances with the Aimpoint in my opinion. I love the both eyes open approach to shooting with the ML2. Just the other day while on a training range with my Marines, I was taking 100yd. shoots in broad day light nailing 6 inch metal disk with no problem. Before I purchased my ML2 I was contemplating the EOTECH also, but was turned off by some of the horror stories from other Marines who have used them. One was having hit the EOTECH and the lens housing cracked causing the lens to fall out. As a Marine everything you use has to be rugged, I’ve slammed my ML2 around more than I would care too and it’s still ticking. I’ve never used the EOTECH, but my vote would be for the AIMPOINT.

Thank you for your service MARINE-DM !


I have seen the front lense of an Eo get shattered and it still worked, although
I'll agree that there's probably not many EoTech service centers for you guy's
in the Al Anbar province.

Take care and watch your six !

Thanks for real combat experience info. Thanks for your service.


TS

I guess I should have included that also !

God Speed, MARINE-DM.

THANK YOU for your service!!

Thanks for the support guys! It really means a lot to the us out here on the ground. I have another incident to add about my AIMPOINT. Yesterday, my SSgt. was picking up my rifle, and for whatever reason he decided to toss it to me. Needless to say it never reached my hands and landed smack dab on my AIMPOINT. I thought that was going to be the last of my scope. I figured i was going to atleast have to site it in again. NOPE, she shot just as accurate as the first time I zeroed her. He was supprised that he didn't break it and commented, "I thought for sure I broke something, but this thing is solid as a rock". Tack one up for the AIMPOINT on the scoreboard!

That's good to hear about your Aimpoint, thank's again and check in with us more often .


Be careful !