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3 part Survival pack, SHTF Pack for Adamm
post October 19th 2009 10:31 PM
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I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse with this thread..but figure it'd be good as I'm doing my own project smile.gif

The Plan: What I'm trying to aim for is a 3 part survival kit. I want something broke down in 3 sizes. For example, All my gear in my Bronco which has all 3 parts of survival. If need to ditch the vehicle, I can only take 2 of the 3 parts. If I really need to hussle, drop the 2nd part, leaving me with just 1 part with bare min survival gear needed.

My plan is to decide what items are most important (that's where you guys come in thumbsup.gif ) and put them in the correct packs.

I'm giong to buy military type packs with MOLLE so that way I can maybe transfer one pack accessory down to another "part" if needed.

Part 3: lightweight plastic trunk box with lock. Black in color. Size, could fit 6 cases of 12pack water bottles.

Part 2: Allice pack, 22x20x19 with metal frame

Part 1: Assault pack (as found on my last camping thread to Alamosa, CO) with attached MOLLE ammo pack.


I currently have:
Rope
Ammo
Light sticks
matches
lighter
pen
paper
shovel


..I clearly need more items. Any advice or item ideas, please post up!



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post October 19th 2009 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (WakaWaka @ October 19th 2009 6:31 PM) *
I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse with this thread..but figure it'd be good as I'm doing my own project smile.gif

The Plan: What I'm trying to aim for is a 3 part survival kit. I want something broke down in 3 sizes. For example, All my gear in my Bronco which has all 3 parts of survival. If need to ditch the vehicle, I can only take 2 of the 3 parts. If I really need to hussle, drop the 2nd part, leaving me with just 1 part with bare min survival gear needed.

My plan is to decide what items are most important (that's where you guys come in thumbsup.gif ) and put them in the correct packs.

I'm giong to buy military type packs with MOLLE so that way I can maybe transfer one pack accessory down to another "part" if needed.

Part 3: lightweight plastic trunk box with lock. Black in color. Size, could fit 6 cases of 12pack water bottles.

Part 2: Allice pack, 22x20x19 with metal frame

Part 1: Assault pack (as found on my last camping thread to Alamosa, CO) with attached MOLLE ammo pack.


I currently have:
Rope
Ammo
Light sticks
matches
lighter
pen
paper
shovel


..I clearly need more items. Any advice or item ideas, please post up!

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post October 19th 2009 11:34 PM
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hey, it sounds to me you have a good start. I like to carry a kit as well. First,some DECENT 1st. aid...including "Quik-Clot"...(carefull w/ that stuf!!!!!) lite stiks,550 cord,a multi tool,Ka-Bar,tow strap,CB,fire bottle,some basic tools,a few good flashlights,an MRE,or two,a emergency foil blanket,an a disposable poncho,a few small lighters,and a signal mirror,(assuming I WANT to be found). All this stuff is surprisingly small and I hardly notice it in my jeep. The fire bottle and CB is already hard mounted in it too. This,equipment,as well as the jack,jack handle and a small board for a stable base,goes under the back seat,and in back,in a small GI duffle bag. These are just a few ideas,feel free to add or even shave stuff down as conditions or your activities change and evolve. Also,as a thought,try to be sure to USE your gear,and learn new techniques. Some stuff may work better for you,some may not.Well,good luck and have some fun!

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post October 20th 2009 2:30 AM
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Think of your gear in 3 different stages if you would.

1st line gear, the gear you have on you 24x7 to live and fight out of immediate trouble...

2nd line gear, stuff like your vest that you can remove, but keep handy & it coupled with your 1st line gear make up a minimalist survival kit.

3rd line, the ruck with your "long term" gear in it that you can if needed dump and run away from & still live, just not as easy or as comfortable.


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QUOTE (Rampy @ October 19th 2009 8:30 PM) *
Think of your gear in 3 different stages if you would.

1st line gear, the gear you have on you 24x7 to live and fight out of immediate trouble...

2nd line gear, stuff like your vest that you can remove, but keep handy & it coupled with your 1st line gear make up a minimalist survival kit.

3rd line, the ruck with your "long term" gear in it that you can if needed dump and run away from & still live, just not as easy or as comfortable.


Exactly..that's what I was going for. I also have a black tactical vest, but I want something with more pockets.
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QUOTE (rock rat @ October 19th 2009 5:34 PM) *
hey, it sounds to me you have a good start. I like to carry a kit as well. First,some DECENT 1st. aid...including "Quik-Clot"...(carefull w/ that stuf!!!!!) lite stiks,550 cord,a multi tool,Ka-Bar,tow strap,CB,fire bottle,some basic tools,a few good flashlights,an MRE,or two,a emergency foil blanket,an a disposable poncho,a few small lighters,and a signal mirror,(assuming I WANT to be found). All this stuff is surprisingly small and I hardly notice it in my jeep. The fire bottle and CB is already hard mounted in it too. This,equipment,as well as the jack,jack handle and a small board for a stable base,goes under the back seat,and in back,in a small GI duffle bag. These are just a few ideas,feel free to add or even shave stuff down as conditions or your activities change and evolve. Also,as a thought,try to be sure to USE your gear,and learn new techniques. Some stuff may work better for you,some may not.Well,good luck and have some fun!

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Sounds like you got a good amount of gear.. I'm deff going to add those itmes to my list thumb.gif

I was looking at buying a CB radio.. but going to read Peppers thread about radios before I decide what exactly to get.
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post November 4th 2009 5:04 PM
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That's ok, continue to beat the horse, as I'm starting my kit, and wanted more ideas. thumb.gif

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post November 4th 2009 5:18 PM
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Think of stuff that is very light and can be used in a lot of different ways. I can try to make a list on what i have if you want. Just tell me. I would right now but i don't have the time. Just remember Water/Shelter/Food.

As your fire gear goes, Get a flint and steel. I like The Swedish FireSteel, it works really well. Cotton balls make good tender. I keep my cotton balls in a Ziploc bag soaked in lamp oil. It takes a spark really good and burns long enough even to get damp wood going. Also get a tin with some cut up 100% cotton T shirt in there. That would be good for making char cloth in case you have an extended stay.


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post November 4th 2009 5:59 PM
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Yea I'll have to post my list up so everyone can critique it, I doubt I have much of anything that anyone would have forgotten though...lol. It's all pretty basic stuff.
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I take a different approach on my vehicles and divide it into vehicle survival and outside vehicle survival. A true BugOut would be a main BOB.

What that boils down to is only one light pack which is a GHB (Get Home Bag) and gear in the vehicle for those whoops, weather closes the road, got stuck, or heck just want to spend the nights). A lot of the gear over laps, of course.

Vehicle Survival

Shovel, Scraper/brush. Tow Strap, jumper cables or box, tire pump w plugs, and tools, and headlamp for car repair. Related normal car items is car compass, GPS, and maps in the glove box and, of course, I CCW.

Blanket/sleeping bags (depends on the time of year), candle for heat and light, water (bottled 20 oz water which does OK freezing), I even have a Coleman Survival Cat heater for potential Bizzard conditions.

GHB

That's basically 3 days of ultra light survival gear. That includes way to carry water, purify water, poncho (makeshift shelter or heck work on the vehicle in the rain), first aid kit, compass, 3 days of food (freeze dried keeps better in a vehicle), Ebsit stove to cook, knife (beyond the one in my tool box), headlamp, paracord, EM blankets (they're light and can be used as ground pads), fire making materials both ignition and initial fuel source, gloves, spare socks (your feet stop you stop), batteries for 3 days, basically a ultra-light minimalist BoB. Average total weight is 10lbs.


There is a pre-condition. I never drive anywhere not dressed or prepared for the weather.

This is my normal vehicles. My BOV, well it has a lot more gear. My BOB doubles as my outdoor adventure vehicle.

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post November 10th 2009 10:08 AM
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New at this, but the dryer lint from the laundry works well as tinder.
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post November 10th 2009 11:42 AM
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the new army issue ruck is nice for one major thing it has two huge external pouches attached by molle system, that I usually have off of it (I use a different ruck than it) and attached to My IOTV, with just these two pouches you can stow enough socks, shirts underwear n ACU uniforms for three days, changing all but outer wear 2x daily, outerwear is 2 sets ACU. I have been trying to locate more of just the pouches without much luck though, but mate it with one of the 4 pocket assault packs (essentially a very roomy booktype bag)and you can push out for a week if you pack right, I recently proved this while on detail at Ft Sam Houston as a drag dummy for personnel obtaining their Expert Field Medic Badge. I went out with nothing but that assault pack three of the large ruck external pouches(I managed to locate a lost pouch to get three of em prior to this field exercise) attached to My IOTV(the new body armor system that falls off us with a pull on a cable system), My kevlar, an issue small buttpack (not the LRP style but the LRP style would prolly enable an additional 2 to 3 days out) which housed tore down MREs n pogie bait, the typical grenade/ammo pouch/back mounted CamelBak assortment on IOTV (I use the nade pouches to house items like compass, a small foldable monocular, and my active pack of smokes n a backup [rest of the smokes go in the ruck and buttpack obviously]). My trusty tanto attached to My dropleg along with a gerber pouch a seatbelt cutter pouch and a 4 mag carrier, the uniform on My back and one pair of well worn and overly waterproofed Stormin Norman Desert boots. Sleep system was the new deployment issue gray 3 piece(two low temp bags, a bivvy in ACU pattern, and two compression sacks) attached to the outside of the assault pack. Altogether ya look alot like a damn turtle but any portion can be dropped out in a heartbeat n stashed for mobility. Oh yeah n obviously the M16(using that awesome Gear Sector 3pt sling) n enough mags for a 360 rd loadout is easily accomplished with the dropleg mounted four mag (120 rds) and four double mag carriers attached to IOTV(240 rds), if you wanna pump up the round count ditch the double mag carriers n go full on with 4 mag carriers(4 pouches x 4mags x 30rds=460 rds on IOTV) + 120 rds on dropleg=580 rds and my current config. Now this system gets pretty durned heavy fast especially if yer using plates in the IOTV I jumped on scales last week after doing a Sargents Time Training event with is loadout with the current 4mag pouches loadout n over all weight was 270lbs subtract My 165lbs and you got 105lbs total of gear on yer body. Drop the assault pack for a 45lb loss, the the buttpack for 20lbs n yer down to the essential fighting load weight of 40lbs, n you now see why we PT and ruck so damned much in the Army thumb.gif

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