hello everyone, thought i'd go ahead and introduce my self. I'm waiting for my new to me EAA whitness 10mm to show up so i can go have some fun. i've been reading a little bit and it seems there may be some quality issues with the EAA? i really like the CZ75/clones which was the main reason i bought the EAA. Also about how many rounds of ammo would i have to re-load to make it worth while if i was starting with nothing at all?

Uhhh, from what I can tell EAA, (Imported Tanfoglio), is a hit or miss with the 10mm. Some people have problem after a while, some people beat the snot out of 'em with no problems. I do have a TZ-75, (same make, different model and import), but it is in 9mm. It's kinda rough on the finish and not horribly accurate, but it's also as old as I am and is a used weapon. Not a bad buy at all for the price though. Supposedly the newer guns are fairly straight shooters.

And on reloading, I don't know. I should probably get into it, but I haven't yet.

It'll take a good while as an avid marksman before your reloading expenses pay off, but for some people it is more than worth it. You get a nice hobby, and an extra layer of customization- never under estimate the value of custom.

If you get good at it, you can even make some money off of your friends. A guy I know down in Georgia could just about go into it full-time loading competition grade shotshells. People remember you if you can push out good ammo.

Welcome to the forum I don't have any experience with an EAA, both of my 10's are Glocks.

I figured I would try to answer your reloading question though.

I've been a reloader for a long time, since I was in grade school (my dad taught me, I thought everyone reloaded... go figure). I assume when I buy something that part of the initial buy in for it is a set of dies, some powder and bullets and brass if I don't already have it.

Compared to buying DT or Win Silvertips the 10mm pays itself back in about 400 rounds of loaded ammo if you buy a single stage press, cheap Lee powder thrower, RCBS dies and shoot bulk FMJ bullets with something like Blue Dot or Power Pistol.

I also shoot a lot of cast lead bullets, which make it even cheaper. My dad got into that years ago, I use hard cast in the Glocks without any issues, I also shoot it in rifles. When you can load "plinker" 10mm ammo for under 5cents a round, it's much more fun to go run off 250-300 rounds of ammo in a day.

I recently made the jump to a full progressive, all said, I invested about 600 bucks in the Hornady LnL for a few different calibers. The return in time and the amount of ammo I can shoot will pay for itself in about 6 weeks, compared to shooting factory loads.




What the guy in GA is doing is illegal if he doesn't have an FFL-06 license, just FYI

This post has been edited by bohem3006: August 18th 2009 3:03 PM

wow i thought it'd take thousands of rounds to pay for itself, i guess i'll keep an eye out at a gun show for a press, then when i find that i'll get the rest of the stuff, guess the same press would work for 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R just with different dies?

Most presses accept a standard 7/8X14 thread, and have about 4" of ram travel. These will easily handle the cartridges you mention. The Dillon Square Deal B, while a great press, does not accept standard dies, and cannot load traditional 'rifle' cartridges due to a much shorter ram travel.

I can reload ammo for about $15.00/100 if I user cheap bullets (Zero brand from powder valley). Cheapest I can buy 180 grain FMJ is about $40/100 last I checked.

Like Bohem, I cast my own bullets, which removes the bullet cost. This brings my total cost down to about $5/100. I get my lead for free.

FYI, I am 2/2 on Witness 10mm. I love both my standard full size wonder finish and my Elite Match. The full size is my carry gun, the Match is fun for amazing people when shooting at 25+ yards.

ok, so far i've been browsing the midway usa site andi'm thinking about getting the $32 press kit that comes with a book, all the reviews on it seem good and i kinda think it'd be the way to go just to get the hang of reloading. as far as casting my own bullets it think i'll wait untill i get the hang of reloading first then maybe try it. i'm gonna start a list of what i'd need to start reloading and add up the cost to see how many rounds i would have to make to come out even. please add to my list if i miss something
1. Press
2. Scale
3. Dies
4. bullets/brass/powder/primers
5. tumbler/media

also whats teh average number of times you can reload the brass, i think my brother-in-law might be going in halves with me too to reload his .40 and both of our 9mm's

ok so i'm coming up with about $450 to get started on reloading would that be pretty close? thats if i buy 500 brass and 500 bullets. so about $.90 pre round for the first go around, then maybe .20per round after i've got the brass, i figured .02 cents per round for powder and .18 for bullets. i'm sure i've got to be missing something but if i can load them for .20 per round i think it'd be worth while since the stores around here a .50-.60 per round for factory ammo. so am i right or no where close?