I've been trying to get down a double tap with my kimber, but i'll be damned if that muzzle comes down in anything less than a full second. Ive seen other do it, but always with those 180 grain (the ones I can't find in stores). Anybody know if the 180 grain bullet has that much less recoil? Or does the extrea powder make it the same??

trying to get a double tap? as in a bumpfire? or what?

No, as in two shots rapidly. BangBang instead of Bang--Bang.

I've not got this down myself, but I'd suggest watching the Todd Jarrett videos on youtube. The grip he shows seems to make double taps easier.


Nate

gotcha. thanks for the clarification.

standard pressure 230 grain ammo is an easier recoiling load than the 180 grain stuff (the 180 grain rounds use more powder behind them and generate more velocity, and thus a snappier recoil). You could try changing your grip, or trying other 230 grain loads. It could also be that the 1911 just isn't the perfect .45 for you, or could be the weight/size of the gun. Are we talking a full size 5 inch government model steel frame? 5 inch w/ alloy frame? 4 inch commander? Micro-size 3 incher?

Honestly though, the "Controlled pair" is much better than rapid, unaimed fire. The difference is just a split second. Controlled pairs let you get a flash sight picture while you squeeze the next round off. Rapidly blasting as soon as the slide is closing isn't conducive to well placed shots, and is only useful at contact distances where you don't have to worry so much about the muzzle not lining up with the target.


the .45 definately has more spunk than a 9mm, but the 230 grain standard loads are the easiest rounds I've ever shot thru any .45 - Sigs, Glocks, 1911's. I've gone from 165 grain stuff upto the 230's, and the 230's have consistantly been the easiest to shoot, and usually the most accurate. Don't give up on the 230 grain stuff yet.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363

A proper grip will make all the difference in the world.

bc

I can do double taps with all my semi auto pistols. It more fun with the 9mm because I have 18 round mags and one 30 round mag. With my 1911 it's over too quickly with a 8 round mag. Grip is important, but so is trigger technique and each gun is a tad different. Try it first with a hi cap 9mm. When you get that down apply what you have learned to 45. I have never tried it with a dao trigger cause I dont own any. Not sure if you can with dao.

Great video thanks for posting it.

I do it with a Glock all the time. It's all about learning and then catching the trigger's reset point.

bc

Yeah, that's actually the video I learned my grip from. I think I'm locking my elbows or something though, cause that guy handles the .45 like it's airsoft.

HK,

Sorry I meant "controlled pair". Still wearing training pants when it comes to terminology.

Just practice more.

You'll get it down. Admitedly I never shot anything but 230gr rounds out of my 1911s. But it's not impossible either way. I use to do it with .40s all the time when I stillshot it.